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TB Special: Pressing Ministers to unify UK policy

Although Wales has taken pride in pursuing a radically different TB policy to England, there have been calls from First Minister Carwyn Jones for the UK to have a common animal health policy post-Brexit.

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According to Chief Veterinary Officer for Wales, Prof Christianne Glossop, the foundation for such a policy already exists.


“When it comes to an exotic disease, farmers, vets and Government in Wales are probably more unified than they might be over TB, and this would be also true between Scotland, England and Wales”, she said.


“We work effectively together when we get a disease emergency, so I would argue there is a framework which exists. It may not be set in stone, but we do have a working relationship at all levels.”


How formalised this framework will need to become post-Brexit is a topic Prof Glossop says is ‘under active consideration’.


Despite the need for a UK framework of sorts, Dr Nick Fenwick, head of policy at the Farmers Union of Wales (FUW), NFU Cymru Pembrokeshire chairman Jeff Evans and Powys farmer and Nuffield scholar Dafydd Saunders-Jones all agree devolution has its benefits.


Mr Saunders-Jones said: “Devolution has given us the chance to influence policy, which we did not have before.


“It was quite London-centric. I have been to Defra meetings, dealing with staff who were not linked to their rural communities and did not understand family farms.”

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Mr Evans agreed, explaining the TB Eradication Boards had a ‘direct impact’ on legislation.


“What we had put into the boards came through on the TB Eradication Plan and farmers may not have had this sort of input into the policy without them,” he said.


More than having an impact on Welsh policy, devolution has given Welsh farmers the chance to shape UK law, argued Prof Glossop.


“We can change direction as we get it right in Wales,” she said. “If you put the clock back 12 years, there was no TB Eradication Plan for England and Wales.


“We were completely outside of European legislation by not having an eradication plan and it was Wales standing up at meetings in London and Birmingham saying ‘we must have a plan’.


“Some people would not use the word ‘eradicate’ and ‘TB’ in the same sentence, and now it is normal parlance, thanks to Welsh input.”

Where to go for help


The Welsh Government provides support and advice to farmers whose cattle have TB through its Cymorth TB programme. To find out more about the programme, call the Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) Wales office on 0300 303 8268 and ask to speak to Cymorth TB admin, or visit


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Researching his Nuffield scholarship, which looked at bovine TB eradication schemes across the rest of Europe, was what convinced Powys farmer Dafydd Saunders-Jones the only way forward would be for farmers, vets and Government to work together.


“You have to work together to be successful,” he said.


One example of this can be seen in the Gower, where a group of farmers got together to deliver a badger survey to help understand the interaction between cattle and wildlife.


The project was a massive success, with 86 per cent of the land being surveyed. Wales’ three TB Eradication Boards, set up in 2008 to investigate regional approaches to dealing with TB, have also been praised for bringing farmers closer to Government.




Based in North Wales, Carmarthen and Cardiff, the boards provide a chance for discussion on TB policy with input from all kinds of farmers.


Unprecedented co-operation between vets in Wales has improved testing services, too. Until 2015, TB testing was carried out by a farmer’s own vet, with Government picking up the bill, but this meant there were no standard procedures.


In order to rectify this, a procurement exercise to find veterinary organisations to carry out tests took place across England and Wales, but there was concern this could lead to a severing of the link between farmer and vet.


“We did not like the idea of some corporate body sending in a squad of vets to do TB testing,” Prof Glossop said. “But we had to go through the procurement exercise fairly and the vets recognised this.


“It is pretty much unheard of to get vet practices who compete with each other to work together, but all the vets in South Wales and North Wales formed two consortiums, and they bid successfully for the TB testing contract.”

TB myths

TB myths

Despite extensive collaboration across Wales, the challenge of changing people’s perceptions about TB remains. One of the most deep-rooted misconceptions is the idea an animal without visible lesions is not sick.


Dafydd Saunders-Jones said: “TB is an invisible disease.


“You see an animal and it looks healthy, but it is not. You look for lesions to see how far the disease has gone but, in a non-academic mind, if there are no lesions they think the animal has not got it.”


Other misunderstandings surround the requirement for annual testing.


“The challenge has been getting people to understand annual testing is not an indication of the level of risk,” Mr Saunders-Jones said.


“Traditionally, animal testing meant you were in a high risk area and you had high risk cattle. “But we have seen cases where it has been the opposite in reality.”




Prof Glossop believes the long-term nature of the TB issue has allowed these deep-seated, and sometimes divisive, opinions to take hold.


“With a serious exotic disease outbreak, such as foot-and-mouth, everybody understands the shortterm impact. They do not like the movement restrictions or testing but they understand,” she said.


“But because we have had TB for so many years, people have passed down through generations what lesions mean, what testing means, whether you want your inconclusive reactors to go or not.


“There is a long history, so there is an opportunity for views to diverge.”

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Current cull policy

Explaining the rationale behind the political U-turn, Prof Christianne Glossop said: “Using the improved understanding we have of the TB picture across Wales, we identified a small number of farms which were having long-term breakdowns. “Out of about 600 live TB breakdowns at any one time, about 10 per cent come under this heading. We recognise the regime is not tackling the problem for those farms.


“In those breakdowns, we know one driver could be wildlife. “If you are going to tackle all the other elements, you have to look at anything which is residual on-farm, and badgers are potentially one of those components,” she said. Though this policy has ostracised Prof Glossop in some circles, the FUW and NFU Cymru believe it is the only way to get farmers onside.


Mr Evans said: “Farmers were becoming frustrated as they felt the policy was one-sided. They will buy into it a little bit better now.”


Dr Fenwick added: “The move is welcome, but it is frustrating we have taken eight years to go back to a culling policy. Now it has to be seen to be being implemented.” Prof Glossop has said there will not be an announcement on how many badgers are culled as part of the policy, deeming such a declaration ‘inappropriate’.


For some, a policy of badger vaccination would be more preferable, and this is something the Welsh Government pursued vigorously in the area where the dropped cull was planned. Prof Glossop said:


“We knew where the badgers were. We had surveyed the land and engaged with farmers. “We vaccinated for four years. The plan was to go for five years, but there was an interruption in vaccine supply, so we did some modelling based on the work we had done. “The modelling suggested the bulk of the benefit you might derive from vaccination could be achieved with a four-year programme.”


Although the programme was not part of a controlled trial, comparisons show TB in the vaccination area has been falling at least at the same rate as the rest of Wales. The programme has also come in for criticism because of its cost. To find the setts, lay and pre-bait the traps, then encourage badgers into them is a time consuming, labour-intensive process.


It is estimated to cost about £600 to vaccinate one badger, with the process having to be repeated annually for at least five years, but Prof Glossop said it would be just as expensive to humanely euthanise a badger after trapping and testing it.

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